Giles and Greg talk to independent animator Julian Glander about his critical hit Boys Go to Jupiter, about math prodigy / high school dropout / Grubster drone Billy 5000 and his encounters with customers, experimental citrus farms, and aliens. We talk about blender animation, baby ducklings, hammer entrepreneurship, and how to get a free deep-fried taco in Tampa, FL. And what’s up with the hot dog guy?